Breaking News: Markov Allegedly Confronts Price; Locker Room Split?
Submitted by George Prax on Wed, 01/27/2010 - 11:49

I wasn't going to post a blog today but this needs some attention... according to Tony Marinaro on the Team 990, Andrei Markov confronted Carey Price after the 4-3 overtime loss to the St. Louis Blues on Wednesday night.
Allegedly, Markov told Price "Play with more heart, or stay home.. we don't need you." (source).
Following this comment, Tony claims that half the locker room backed Price, the other half, Markov. Marinaro then implied that this confrontation could have been one of the deciding factors behind the demotions of Pacioretty and D'Agostini to Hamilton, and that there might also be friction between Markov and his defense partner (also Price's best friend), Josh Gorges. He then went on to say that the only thing he wasn't able to confirm was which side Jaroslav Halak took.
Everyone needs to listen to this on the Team990's website.
I will update my blog a little later, but it seems to me that Tony is making a bigger deal out of this (if it's even true) than it is. Even Dave Stubbs on Twitter is quietly implying that he doesn't believe the report, or at the very least that he is also skeptical.
Tony has spent the last half hour defending himself against callers who are upset that Tony would even report something like this. Whether it's true or not, and whether it's as big of a deal as Tony claims it is remains to be seen, but it's just another example why this team will never succeed the way it's structured. Whether it's a case of an internal fight that really is that big of a deal, or the media making a bigger deal of things than they need to, it's just another day in the Montreal Canadiens Circus.
More to come.
For now, check out my twitter for all the breaking updates as they are made available
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Wed, 01/27/2010 - 12:00
Wed, 01/27/2010 - 12:07
Wed, 01/27/2010 - 12:09
Eric Engels was talking about it on twitter, making it sound like he gets news like this a lot but holds back, because it isn't worth reporting.
Wed, 01/27/2010 - 12:34
Wed, 01/27/2010 - 12:50
Let's say it's false and Marinaro's sources are full of you know what. He should then ditch his "sources" and issue a full apology to the Canadiens, the players involved and to the fans for shoddy reporting.
But let's say it's true, and his sources are credible. It's not such a big deal that one player called out another behind closed doors. It's a big deal because it's apparently Markov calling out Price. I don't need to mention how these 2 are core to the Canadiens success. There are those who argue that Markov should be captain. Is this a sign of leadership? A sign of frustration? And what of Price? We have LONG heard about Price's nonchalance, his poor body language, and at times, his questionable work ethic. I don't know what his practice habits are like. But I have not been impressed with his demeanor on-ice, especially after a goal against. I have not been impressed with his focus either. In interviews, he sometimes certainly sounds disinterested. Maybe that's just him being a calm kid. Whatever. Again, I feel like I have to qualify all this by saying that I like Price. I really, really do. I hope he's a member of this team for a long time. He's not perfect, but he's still our best hope for a bright future. That said, fans and media are turning on him, and now it seems plausible that teammates are as well. We made this logical assumption when Cammalleri scuffled with Lapierre and high-fived one another for it.
So half the team sided with Price, and half with Markov. If true, we have another divided locker room, which Gainey tried so hard to rid this team of. Or maybe, this is blown out of proportion and it was just a heated discussion.
There are those that say that what happens in the locker room should stay there. That's fair enough. I'm sure there is TONS that goes on that we don't hear about, and that we don't need to hear about. Let's get real: we want Habs news in all of its shapes and forms. Marinaro is in the business of reporting news. This is news, whether we want to call it that or not. This is not a report of the team at Buona Notte. This is not circulation of salacious photos. This is not allegations of mobster dealings. This is directly tied to the harmony and unity of the team, while they are still in their equipment. This is news (if true).
In this instance, a source revealed this scoop to Marinaro, meaning they knew this would get out, meaning they wanted this to get out. Why? Apparently Marinaro verified with a 2nd source, who also confirmed that it happened.
Could this whole thing be overblown? Certainly, and it probably is. Everything is in this city. The 2 people at the center of this make this all the more intriguing. Substitute Hal Gill and Travis Moen, and we don't talk about this.
But let's look at the core of the story here. Forget the hoopla that surrounds it. Markov is apparently calling out Price. When does Markov do anything like that? Never, as far as I can recall. Perhaps more of this kind of energy is a positive sign. I'm very much against him as team captain, but if he wants to single out players, then maybe I'm the one who's wrong. The night following the Blues loss we heard of fights at practice. Laraque was let go. D'Agostini and Pacioretty were demoted. A lot of incidents going on in a short time. It suggests that something bigger is going on, or that this team just does not like each other. At best, it can be labeled as a group that is frustrated with losing and are taking it out on each other. In that case - STOP LOSING!
So by the time the microphones get to the players, they'll be sweeping it under the rug with the usual clichés, we can be certain of that. Nobody is going to admit that there's a problem, at least not an ongoing problem.
I don't believe that Marinaro had any motivation to say what he said, other than to "report the news". Time will tell if he's right or wrong. Many will debate the merits of reporting such news. But the undertones of this story point to more unrest, which was supposed to be fixed. It points to eroding trust in Price (rightly or wrongly). It has not been an easy ride for Price in his time here. Some fans and media believe Price has been handed the job on a silver platter. Those same people believe that Price has a crap attitude and takes his position for granted. There are those on the other side who believe that he is put in an impossible situation. Somehow, something's got to give. It's plain and simple now. A growing number of people don't like Carey Price, for a multitude of reasons. If we give Marinaro the benefit of the doubt, this will not help Price's case. Fans and media can pile on him all they want, but if management and teammates continue to support him, the rest takes care of itself. It feels to me, and this is just an instinct judgement, that he is losing supporters everywhere now.
Perhaps this was a dust-up between 2 players, frustrated after a loss. But ask yourself this: how long has this been ruminating inside of Markov? It's highly uncharacteristic of him to be like this. Follow up that question with this: if it's a spur of the moment dust-up, a couple peacemakers break it up and life goes on. But this sounds like a different animal. The report says that half lined up behind Markov, and half behind Price. That's the significance. If that's accurate, then there's another deep-rooted problem on this team.
Phew. I'm tired now.
Wed, 01/27/2010 - 13:26
Wed, 01/27/2010 - 13:36
If you go on CKAC and RDS they're reporting the story, but they're sourcing Marinaro... don't think think that those places could corroborate the story for themselves, if it indeed happened? It just seems unnecessary.
Wed, 01/27/2010 - 13:38
But anyway, what I find most interesting about this is that Tony's spent more time defending himself than talking about what could have happened or what could come of this. Tieman's going to back him up because they're on the same show, but otherwise, I think people are seeing through Tony in this case. He didn't ened to report it.
Wed, 01/27/2010 - 13:45
''It's not a scandal, it's not even news. It's the human dynamic of team sport. But some "journalists" have to be the news.''
http://twitter.com/habsinsideout1
Wed, 01/27/2010 - 13:51
Wed, 01/27/2010 - 13:54
Wed, 01/27/2010 - 14:02
Wed, 01/27/2010 - 14:03
Wed, 01/27/2010 - 14:05
I go back to my point (and again, assuming that this story is true and accurate): if Markov is pushing Price to be better, why did this escalate to the point that half lined up between Markov, and half behind Price?
Nobody denies that Cammalleri was pushing Lapierre. Half the team didn't line up behind either player, but THAT was a case of one guy trying to spark another. Cammalleri made his point, peacemakers stepped in and that was the end of it.
This is TOTALLY different. If accurate, it means that half of the team thinks Price is dogging it, while half thinks he's not. THAT is the problem, and THAT is what this issue is about. It's not about (at least not to me) picking on Price. It's clear that this team is not all on the same page. That's the relevance of this story.
When the Canadiens fall apart, we jump around like our hair is on fire trying to find out why they stink. We blame some weak goals, we blame the coach and we blame a few guys who we think aren't doing their job. This story serves as a spotlight on what rots a team and what helps to bring it down.
There are those that think the sports media should just recap the game and deal with X's and O's. Give me a break. Those of us who have been watching hockey long enough can do that for ourselves. We listen to the radio and read blogs, and participate because we want MORE than what is available.
Wed, 01/27/2010 - 14:09
Wed, 01/27/2010 - 14:15
Wed, 01/27/2010 - 14:37
Almost every caller that confronted Tony about this this morning said that they thought this happened all the time.
And judging by the way Tony reacted, it's clear to me that he was obviously exaggerating the whole thing.
You can't really blame him, he's a trending topic on Twitter as a result, RDS and CKAC picked up the story and sourced him and his listeners probably doubled in the second and third hour he was on.
But I think what he did was irresponsible.
Unless, of course, we're all being naive, and what he said did actually happen and half the team hates the other half, haha, but I think that it's unlikely.
Wed, 01/27/2010 - 14:38
Wed, 01/27/2010 - 15:56
Wed, 01/27/2010 - 16:27
Wed, 01/27/2010 - 16:29
Wed, 01/27/2010 - 16:30
Wed, 01/27/2010 - 16:53
I spoke to one very good Montreal Canadiens media source today, who called it an unsubstantiated rumour.
After that game, Price was not available for the media, although CKAC's Ron Fournier stated he smashed a mirror with his stick after the game. No other dressing room insider verified that either.
Mike Boone of Habs InsideOut, who I beleive did the locker room interviews for them during that game, also calls BS.
Ya! The Habs Rule!
Wed, 01/27/2010 - 16:59
I'll say Cammalleri is Team Price and Halak is Team Markov, haha just kidding you can't pick Halak, I'll say Hamrlik was Team Markov
Wed, 01/27/2010 - 22:53
Good times.
Wed, 01/27/2010 - 22:56
Mcguire says: "You're talking to the guy who threw a player through a door when he was coaching" haha.
Totally blown out of proportion by Tony, but hey, it got him ratings, and it got me hits, so who's complaining
Wed, 01/27/2010 - 22:56
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Thu, 01/28/2010 - 10:17